G2 COT Team Series Point Standings

[GTSVip9]

Individual Standings: (As of Charlotte)

1. Rookiesrock 22
2. Lepage71 21
3. Donaldson 19
4. DaveO 18
5. GTSVip9 17
6. Patch 15
7. CR49 15
8. Kyle 15
9. Hammer 12
10. ucrdoh 11
11. Plmcrzy 10
12. Breeze 9
13. Spike 8
14. DusterLag 7
15. Racingrick 6
16. Louielouie3 5

Team Standings: (As of Charlotte)

1. Team BBFF- 16.7
2. Team NASR- 15.6
3. Cyber Racing- 8.6
4. Last Lap Motorsports- 0


*we are considering a worst round drop which would allow teams that either missed this round or didn't have enough drivers on the team to still be able to compete for the championship. individual standings would be unaffected.*

[GTSVip9]

As of Infineon.

Penalties:

DaveO: -2 (7 to 9 cuts)
Hammer: -1 (4 to 6 cuts)
Mustangman: -1 (4 to 6 cuts)
Patch: -3 (10 to 12 cuts), -2 (dangerous driving on lap 1)

*criteria for a penalty is did you or were you attempting to gain an advantage by either cutting a corner or driving off the pavement in an attempt to change your approach angle to a turn. All penalized incidents have been photo documented and you may request to see them by PM'ing me*

To further elaborate on these penalties, please read this in its entirety.
The rule for our road course races pertaining to going off course is two (2) tires must remain on the course at all times. If a third tire so much as touches the grass, it draws a penalty.
Now for Thursday's race at Infineon, we took this rule and softened it without telling the rest of the drivers. Why? Because we want everyone to attempt to adhere to the rules as they are written at all times. By telling everyone that we are giving lenience to going off course, we would see more drivers caring less about trying to stay on course. Same with not revealing how many cuts would not result in a penalty.
Penalties were assessed as follows. If a driver drove off course on the inside of a turn, effectively shortening the distance they would have to travel around that turn, it drew a penalty. If a driver drove off course in an attempt to change the angle of approach to a turn in an effort to decrease their lap time, this also drew a penalty. We did not penalize for sliding off course on the exit of a turn, not resulting in shortening the distance through the next corner. Why did we do this? In every instance observed, the drivers who came off course in this manner had lost time by doing so and did not gain any sort of an advantage by doing so. In some cases, drivers who were struggling were going off course to stay out of the way of the lead drivers which we feel is perfectly fine. If drivers were gaining an advantage, it would have drawn a penalty. We also did not penalize if the driver was either forced off course by another driver, avoiding an accident or went off course as a result of missing their braking point, getting loose or things of that nature. With that being said, let's go back to the beginning where I defined our rule. When a third tire comes off the track, it should be penalized. All penalties that were assessed at Infineon came only after all 4 tires were clearly off of the course to any degree. Penalizing in this manner was to the benefit of EVERYONE. If we were to stick 100% to the letter of the rule, some drivers would be coming out of this race in the negatives, not to mention additional penalties for drivers who were penalized and more drivers not currently penalized receiving penalties. Is this what everyone wants? We can be penalty Nazi's if you want, and we'll go back over the replay penalizing for every single time a third tire so much as touches the grass. If that's what everyone wants, we're sorry for cutting the league a break and it will never happen again. Just be prepared for steep penalties if your car so much as sniffs a blade of grass at Watkins Glen.

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I have started the process of penalty review for Watkins Glen. Things that are not being penalized are if you cut as a result of either missing a car that was wrecking, got pushed into one of the red zones by another car (not to be confused with dove in under another car to make a pass and got into the red zone), if you got into one of the red zones and either made a quick cut with the steering wheel to get out of it, or got on the brakes to slow down and get out of it. It will also not be penalized if you missed the turn by missing your braking point while trying to save fuel. I know a few had this happen and it cost time anyway having that happen. Another thing that I've been seeing which I'm not penalizing for is on the entry to the bus stop, the curb (which is legal) narrows on the back side and some are getting into the grass there. I am not penalizing for that area if you were legal in the first part of the turn.

[DaveO]

Oct 29, 2011 10:39:43 GMT -4 GTSVip9 said:

I have started the process of penalty review for Watkins Glen. Things that are not being penalized are if you cut as a result of either missing a car that was wrecking, got pushed into one of the red zones by another car (not to be confused with dove in under another car to make a pass and got into the red zone), if you got into one of the red zones and either made a quick cut with the steering wheel to get out of it, or got on the brakes to slow down and get out of it. It will also not be penalized if you missed the turn by missing your braking point while trying to save fuel. I know a few had this happen and it cost time anyway having that happen. Another thing that I've been seeing which I'm not penalizing for is on the entry to the bus stop, the curb (which is legal) narrows on the back side and some are getting into the grass there. I am not penalizing for that area if you were legal in the first part of the turn.

That's great news!! I think your being more then fair to everyone!

[mustangman759]

you must have watched my race then Justin LOL
good move anyways

[bmxtwins]

Yes, when I was saving fuel and lifted off the cluth the car got loose because of the RPM's shooting up. Glad you noticed this

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Penalty review is complete and things will be updated if I ever get power back. I decided to throw out penalties for incidents that could have been argued depending on the angle you got from the replay. This save around 8 penalties across the field. What was penalized for where incidents where a driver clearly got into one of the red marked areas and made no attempt to either slow down by hitting the brakes (which i can see with the replay) or quickly turn out of the red zone after getting into it. A penalty was given if the only attempt made was to simply straighten up the steering wheel as that was not viewed to be making an attempt to exit the red zone as quickly as possible. The majority of the field did a very good job with staying on the course and were still very fast while doing so. I don't believe we will be sticking with this rule for future races though as many seem to not like it. Our goal is to keep a fair balance among all drivers in the field while not having to penalize people for pushing the envelope. Hopefully we'll find that right balance for road courses soon.

[spike]

for a simpler rule why not try speedsims "2 wheels on road at all times" rule next time

[GTSVip9]

Because that was our previous rule for road courses and we all saw how that went at Infineon.

[DaveO]

@ GTS. Have the same problem today keep losing power during a freak snowstorm.

spike. Our two tire rule is very different from NASR rules. Remember this is a Nascar series, and things @ SpeedSims are handled very differently, because we are an international league.

P.S. Imho Justin is doing just fine so far. . No complaints from me.